What we talk about when we talk about love play

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What We Talk About When We Talk About Love by Raymond Carver

Ill announce the cliche of my loving this book before you beat me to it.

Im an overeducated, mock-contemplative early-twenty-something with a penchant for strong male voices (despite my feminist leanings) and a distaste for anything too sentimental. I was raised in the tradition of Show, Dont Tell and hold this closer than even my favorite teddy (whose name is Atticus.) My middle name is Minimalism. My other middle name is Ooh, that sounds pretty.

With that out of the way, yes, of course I loved this volume, and probably for the reasons youd expect.

Raymond Carvers name should be in lights. Everyone who likes this book is going to tell you that one of Carvers strengths is his knack for understatement. Im guessing what theyre getting at is Carvers ability to keep all the mechanics of his stories imperceptible beneath the surface, with maybe a few out-of-character exceptions (the alcohol device in the title story being one). Theres also the fact that Carver seems to accomplish things in the span of one page that so many authors would kill many more trees (and possibly small children, and maybe even a puppy or two) to achieve; see the opening page of Tell The Women Were Going to see what I mean. How many authors can convincingly sum up the entire personal history of two characters in only one paragraph?

Beneath the tightness of each story there seems to be a distinctive pulse. Not the rhythm of the language. Rather, the kind of pure life energy that all artistic works strive for (or at least they should.) When stories took turns (for the worst is implicit), what startled me more than each outcome was often the fact that I was so moved by them each. Its because of this pulse that characters who existed for only 3 or 4 pages still seemed to walk off the page and become real. And thats probably what will make these stories linger in my memory.

People often seem to speak of Raymond Carvers America when theyre trying to grasp these stories. I dont know what that means, or if Raymond Carvers America is anything like mine. Whatever it is, its tortured and beautiful. And I like it.
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What We Talk About When We Talk About Love Birdman?

T here is a sadness and bewilderment at the heart of the excellent film Birdman that the late Raymond Carver would have identified with.
Raymond Carver

How 'Birdman' Betrays Raymond Carver: An Untold Story

The answer is actually almost as convoluted as the question. So let's delve into some of the myriad parallels between Riggan's adaptation and Birdman itself. For once in your life, will you do me a favor and shut up for a minute. There are lots of people not listening to each other, and Jake needs to talk some sense into Riggan about the Mike situation, just like Nick feels like his story needs to be heard. Then of course we have these lines:. The "or not" she's talking about have parallels in the "real life" of the movie: abortion or erasing life suicide. Riggan's inability to live with his choices causes him to attempt suicide a few times, and Laura's inability to live with hers leads to an abortion.

Today the level of respect for Shakespeare is such that no serious theater company will perform Tate's re-writings. The new movie "Birdman" is being talked about as a likely candidate for Best Picture at the Oscars, and it is often an original, imaginative and daring film. But there's something badly wrong with it that to the best of my knowledge has so far gone without notice or comment, something akin to re-writing Shakespeare. The story of "Birdman" concerns a faded Hollywood action star, played by Michael Keaton, who decides to adapt for the stage and then direct and star on Broadway in a version of the Raymond Carver story "Beginners. The movie plays off Keaton's own place as a one-time Hollywood action star in depicting his character, who is given the name of Riggin Thompson. As anyone who has read Carver knows, this respect is merited.

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The reader gets the feeling that he may be selling all his possessions, looking to start life anew. A young couple stops by to select furniture for their new apartment. They haggle a little over prices and buy a TV and a bed. The drinking man tells the young girl to put a record on. When the music begins the man asks the couple to dance. Uncomfortably, they comply. Then the drinking man dances with the young girl, and she says to him: "You must be desperate or something.


  1. Ute H. says:

    Dialogue Parallels

  2. Coimohighnan says:

    What We Talk About When We Talk About Love by Raymond Carver

  3. Nataniel C. says:

    That tale appears in Carver's collection, What We Talk About When We Talk About Love. The movie plays off Keaton's own place as a one-time.

  4. Cerca E. says:

    What We Talk About When We Talk About Love - Wikipedia

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